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Intellectual Property Constituency and IPC Council Meeting
September 5, 2001,
2 pm, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Sheraton Hotel, Gomez Losada Room |
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Attendees: Steve Metalitz, Jane
Mutimear, Martin Schwimmer, Alberto Berton-Moreno, Jr., Guillermo Carey, Tom
Turcan, J. Scott Evans, Nicholas M. Czejer, Antonio Mille, Axel aus des
Muhlen, Sergio M. Ellmann, Hector Ariel Manoff
- Introductions and Approval of Agenda; appointment of
scribe
IPC President, Steve Metalitz opened the meeting by
calling for a volunteer to scribe to record the minutes. J. Scott Evans,
Executive Vice President assumed the duties of scribe. Mr. Metalitz then
requested that the attendees introduce themselves. There were 12
attendees. A full listing of the attendees may be found at the beginning
of this report.
- Report of Membership Committee and approval of new IPC
members
In the absence of Mr. Nick Wood, the Membership Chair,
Jane Mutimear, Vice President of the IPC, reported that the IPC had
received 15 inquiries concerning membership and actually 8 applications
for membership. Of these 8 applications, 1application is for a category 3
member and 7 applications are for category 1 members. There was a motion
to accept the applicants as members. The motion was seconded and carried
without objection.
There was then a discussion regarding the application
process. Ms. Mutimear advised that the Membership Committee is looking
into ways to streamline the application process. Currently, there seems to
be a great deal of time between actual application and acceptance. It was
discussed that a notice should be sent to all members in arrears on 2001
dues before September 25, 2001 in order to allow such members to place
themselves in good standing prior to the October election of IPC Officers.
When queried whether the IPC could post a listing of its members and
contact persons, it was noted that this has been discussed before and
rejected on privacy grounds.
- Financial Status Report
Mr. Metalitz reported that there would be no financial
status report due to the fact that he had not yet received the report from
the IPC Treasurer. Mr. Metalitz did advise that the IPC is current on its
obligations to the DNSO.
- New Top Level Domains
- Discussion of experiences/issues in roll-outs
(ongoing and anticipated)
- .biz
Marty Schwimmer indicated that there is some rumor
that an agreement in the California class action against Neulevel
could affect the go-live date for .biz. However, currently it appears
that .biz is still slated to go live by October 1st . Until
that time it will be difficult to determine whether the IP claim form
process has been effective in preventing cybersquatting. There was
discussion about reaction to the .biz random allocation process by IP
owners. There was a discussion about a need to review Registrar
practices for IP claim forms and land rush registrations. Mr. Evans
reported that he has a paper reviewing many of the ICANN accredited
Registrars that he hopes to circulate in Montevideo. This paper
reviewed posted Registrar policies for rollout of .biz and .info.
- .info
There was lengthy discussion about the reported
Sunrise Period implementation problems. Currently, Afilias plans to
wait until the end of the 120 day Sunrise Challenge Period to
challenge all Sunrise registrations, which are facially defective (
i.e. , do not on meet the minimum qualifications for obtaining a
Sunrise registration.) It was reported that there is some rumor that
the Sunrise information contained in the WHOIS data base would only be
retained for a period of 6 months. It was felt that, given the
apparent massive fraud that has occurred, Afilias should leave the
Sunrise information in the WHOIS listing for all domain names obtained
during the Sunrise Period. There was also considerable discussion
about a proposal from a University of Minnesota professor for dealing
with the fraudulently obtained Sunrise registrations. Marty Schwimmer
was asked to give a brief presentation on this proposal in Montevideo.
There was also discussion that the problems seen in both .biz and
.info may be attributed to the fact that these TLD are unrestricted
and these or similar problems would occur with the rollout of any
undifferentiated TLD unless systems are built in to screen out
fraudulent registrations.
- Others (contracts not complete)
It was noted that the .name contract is complete and
that .name was proceeding to go live in the near future. Mr. Metalitz
reminded us that representatives from Neulevel, Afilias and GNR would
be giving the IPC members a briefing during the Montevideo meeting.
Mr. Metalitz also reported that the .museum contract negotiations
appear to be progressing and that, so far, the mechanisms for the
running this chartered TLD seemed to be in order. Dot museum is going
to use a verification system known as "ENS" to verify that applicants
qualify for a domain name. Initially, it appears that verification
will be operated by the registry with some possibility that
verification could be outsourced to a third party at a later date.
Generally, it was felt that the highly restricted nature of this TLD,
combined with the proactive policing of applicants by the registry,
alleviated many of the IP concerns seen in the .info and .biz proof of
concepts. Mr. Tom Turcan reported that negotiations between the joint
venture partners running .pro and ICANN continue. Guillermo Carey
raised the issue of the prejudicial effect of the proposed limited
rollout of .pro in certain countries.
- New TLD evaluation issue: process and criteria
Mr. Metalitz reported that a Task Force has been
assembled to design the process for evaluation of the new TLDs. Mike
Heltzer from INTA is serving as the IPC representative. There was
discussion about the importance of the length of the evaluation period.
One year was proposed. It was then proposed that a better length might
be one year from the rollout of the last of the seven new TLDs. The
reasoning for this length is that we do not want an evaluation of only
the two open TLDs. We also do not want to design a rollout based on
data/experiences of the new open TLDs only. A significant period of
operation is needed for evaluation, in order to determine what need the
new TLD may have filled, whether registrations in the new TLD were
disproportionately defensive, and whether any new online brands had been
created. Mr. Metalitz mentioned the importance of collecting anecdotal
evidenced from IPC members in order to assist in evaluating the new TLDs.
Mr. Metalitz also emphasized the need to reach out to the other
constituencies that have historically agreed with the IPC on many of the
challenges faced in adding new TLDs to the root. There was also a
discussion about the need for the IPC to put together a paper concerning
the varying views on the definition of a domain name ( i.e. , is
a domain name property?). Mr. Evans agreed to put together a short paper
on the U.S. position and Ms. Mutimear agreed to put together a European
perspective. The IPC will also solicit input from other countries around
the world. Mr. Carey agreed to coordinate this process.
- Alternative roots
There was substantial discussion about the need for an
IPC position on alternate roots. Mr. Evans reported that INTA has been
looking into this issue and may adopt a defined policy on the issue of
alternate roots and alternative naming systems. If so, INTA would be
happy to share its position with the IPC members to see if the IPC
membership would like to endorse this position or use the INTA position
as the basis for creating an IPC position paper on the issue. Mr.
Metalitz reported that this issue is being raised before the U.S.
congress and that the IPC was currently working on educating
congressional staffers on these issues. Ms. Mutimear reported that
representatives from RealNames were going to give a presentation to the
IPC in Montevideo on both the RealNames technology and the XTNS
technology. Also, Mr. Evans reported that he had replied to the e-mail
he received in June from new.net and offered to meet with
representatives from new.net in Montevideo to discuss the IP protection
mechanisms available at new.net. Ms. Mutimear reported that an earlier
search of new.net showed that approximately 58 of the top 75 brands
registered in new.net appeared to be registered by parties unrelated to
the brands.
- UDRP issues and UDRP review task force
Ms. Mutimear reported that the Max Planck study of the
UDRP would hopefully be completed by mid-October. There was some
discussion of the Geist Study recently reported in the press. Mr. Evans
reported that INTA is looking into this study and would circulate a
position for review of the IPC. Mr. Metalitz reported that the WIPO report
on the second round of consultations had recommend no changes to the scope
of the UDRP. Mr. Evans reported that the UDRP Task Force has been
assembled and given the go ahead by Mr. Sheppard to begin its work. Mr.
Metalitz advised that we need to initially focus on the issues on which we
could reach consensus and then focus on what, if any, incremental changes
need to be made to improve the UDRP.
- Individual domain name holders constituency/expansion
of constituencies
It was reported that the Names Counsel will hear a
report on the results of the Task Force looking into the possibility of
expanding the constituencies in the DNSO. To this end, a list of criteria
is being developed that will guide the DNSO in evaluating whether a group
should be allowed to form a new constituency within the DNSO. The report
of the At Large Study Committee on changes in the system for electing
At-Large Members of the ICANN Board will also be discussed in Montevideo.
- WHOIS issues and Verisign initiative
It was reported that the statistics from the WHOIS
survey have been assimilated and circulated to the members of the Task
Force on a confidential basis. There still remains a lot of work because
all of the surveys contained text information that has yet to be reviewed.
There was considerable discussion about what should be done with the data
collected. A suggestion was made that the data should be used as the basis
of a position paper so that the information collected in the survey could
be delivered in context. Mr. Metalitz reported that he had contacted
Verisign about getting technical groups together from Verisign and the IPC
to discuss the Verisign initiative on a universal WHOIS. Verisign informed
Mr. Metalitz that it intended to hold outreach meeting. Mr. Metalitz
attended the first such meeting in Washington, D.C. While technical people
present at meeting, most of the D.C. outreach meeting was spent discussing
various parties' angst at having not been consulted. Mr. Metalitz
suggested, and it was agreed, that the IPC would send Verisign a detailed
listing of the criteria essential to a workable WHOIS. Mr. Metalitz also
renewed the call for technical persons that could assist Verisign in this
initiative.
- ICANN governance issues (at-large)
There was considerable discussion about the
ramifications of the At-Large Report. It is uncertain how the reports
recommendations about restructuring the allocation of Board seats would
affect the overall structure of ICANN/the DNSO. Mr. Metalitz reported that
we would be receiving a further briefing on this issue at our joint
meeting with the BC and ISP constituency.
- Future of .org
Mr. Carey advised that a statement of policy was being
developed with regard to he divestiture of .org. Significantly, the SOP
does not require any charter for .org on a going forward basis. After
considerable discussion, it was determined that the biggest concern for
IPC is the need to ensure that .org is required to operate under the
uniform ICANN policies currently in place for all other registries.
- Internal and external communications
IPC web site has been redesigned in an effort to make
the site more user friendly. An IPC listserv is currently being developed.
IPC leadership has a goal to improve communication within the IPCC in
order to generate wider participation by IPC members. Mr. Evans and Mr.
Carey will work to put together a business plan for reaching this goal.
- Preparation for IPC leadership and Names Council
representative elections - timetable and process
IPC officer election to be held in October. At present,
all but one current officer has agreed to stand for re-election. Treasurer
Andrew Collins has indicated that he does not wish to serve another term.
Mr. Metalitz has requested that Mr. Collins reconsider. Marty Schwimmer
has also indicated a willingness to serve as treasurer. None of the
current Names Council members desire to run for another term. The NC terms
are set to expire in early 2002. We have geographic diversity requirement.
Some names from North America and Europe have been put forward. We need to
solicit candidates from Latin America, Asia- Pacific and Africa. There
will be some need to have a transition period because we are losing all of
our experienced representatives.
- Discussion of ICANN Board election by Names Council
members beginning in Montevideo
Mr. Metalitz reported his recent telephone conversation
with Mr. Kane regarding IPC support for Mr. Kane's candidacy. Mr. Evans
reported that he had received a call from Christopher Gibson in support of
Mr. Kane. Mr. Metalitz also reported having received a call from Mr.
Gibson in support of Mr. Kane. After considerable discussion about the
issue of board representation, it was agreed that any final decisions on
the Board elections would wait until after the IPC meeting in Montevideo
on September 7th.
- Adjournment
Being no other business, Mr. Metalitz adjourned the meeting at 7:45 PM
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